On April 17, 2026, the Liuli faction took a majority of Promitor's parliament seats. Their leader and the new governor, Euu, drained the coffers into their personal wallet, raised taxes to the maximum allowed in faction space, and blocked reimbursement for upkeep.

Embargoes were placed on Liuli by the major, public shipbuilders. EvoV bought out components of the CCD chain that Liuli wasn't producing themselves. Countless ink was spilled about Shrewdbank's exposure via loans to Liuli members (including to Euu, who was in turn loaning to some Liuli members). 2 of Liuli's 3 seats were removed from parliament by molp (dev log #528), eliminating their majority.

In this edition, we catch up with some members of the Chinese-speaking community to get their takes on what happened.

The cancelled ship

Euu left me a message on March 3. I sat on it at the time because it didn't (and still doesn't) seem important.

I believe Schaitr violated the agreement we reached before the election and privately canceled the shipbuilding order for our organization. Yesterday, some people questioned him about the cancellation, and his explanation was that he forgot about a part of it, and that the gateway issue delayed the shipment.

Three known shipbuilding orders were cancelled over a month, while other orders were delivered normally. I don't think forgetting them is a reasonable explanation, especially since his shipbuilding schedule is documented in a table. Why would these orders be removed from the table?

The serial number and date show that my order is a month overdue. Meanwhile, he has delivered over 10 ships to other people, and neither my friend nor I have received our ordered ships.

Someone [Mlion] inquired with Schaitr yesterday, and Schaitr explained that they had forgotten some orders and that there were capacity issues preventing timely shipment. I don't think this is a reasonable explanation.

Orders placed later than ours were delivered to the same location.

I naively thought Schaitr would be an upright person, but what I've seen so far is that his words and actions are inconsistent.

I reached out to Schaitr for comment.

Euu didn't reach out to me. Mlion reached out instead and asked whether I was deliberately pushing back Euu's order. I said that I've been caught up with a lot of HCB orders at that point, and LCBs were lower priority. Besides, I have always given the caveat that delivery to places other than MOR would depend on my shipping capacity.

Euu made me bring everything to Avalon at my own cost, and ignored the contract I sent. I had to ship everything back to MOR after that.

Orders are not delivered in sequence, though I do try to do so as much as possible, but as the parts arrive. Euu wanted the parts on Avalon, and that added a lot to the time needed.

Some players have speculated that this was one of Euu's grievances.

heiheihahei

Let's rewind to March 18, 2026: MOT l-VH-331b m-MOT-40-66268 sets Dreamerr Prime electronics taxes to near max. The two votes in favor are heiheihahei and eeuu. With that context, let's jump into the interview.

When did you leave Liuli and why?

You are trying to determine if I have truly separated from Liuli. I can tell you that I did leave Liuli, and I don't really care if you believe it or not.

The reason for leaving is that I do not agree with their approach this time, and I feel disappointed in making this behavior without consulting everyone, which has caused me to lose my passion for the game. Therefore, I withdrew from all Chinese communities and deleted almost all of my friends, except for a few players whose contracts were not completed.

As for whether you sanction me or not, I don't care. I had already lost my passion for gaming and at this stage, I don't really need a loan anymore. Your sanctions have no power over me at all.

Are you saying you left PrUn中文交流群?

It's not just this one group chat, I have also withdrawn from the others.

I don't want to talk too much about this matter. Whether right or wrong, what Euu did was a person who helped me a lot during the game process. I don't want to participate in commenting on him.

I didn't expect that the chat in UB-860c's site owners would be posted. That day, I was not in a good mood and someone asked me, so I casually said it.

UB-860c in-game chat from April 17:

Hal98: did you leave 琉璃主权资本?
Hal98: thoughts on Euu? I just watch it
Hal98: 这就像看电影 :) [it's like watching a movie]
heiheihahei: Euu did not discuss these things with us, and I do not support his actions, so I withdrew
[...]
heiheihahei: I completely don't understand why he did this. He's not short of money
Hal98: Euu 是在多开吗？ [is Euu running multiple accounts?]
heiheihahei: No, euu owns a company and many players are his employees. He used to only have one account, but I don't know if he has multiple now
Hal98: some non CN people think that she might be Multiboxing
heiheihahei: He doesn't have that much time. He and his family have considerable wealth, and he can solve the account problem by letting employees play

What are your plans going forward?

I don't have any plans; I don't have much enthusiasm at the moment, and I don't have the idea of quitting the game immediately. Maybe I can just maintain production like this.

Can you tell me about Mlion?

I do know a lot about Liuli, but it's not suitable to talk about it now. Positive news won't be believed, and negative news isn't suitable for me to talk about right now.

Mlion had already lost some passion for games before, and he didn't participate in group chats for a period of time before I left. He was quite passionate about this game before and planned to promote it through various means, but you should know that molp didn't put too much effort into the operation of this game, and even didn't care at all, so Mlion's enthusiasm gradually diminished.

Mlion

Let's rewind even further to January 22, 2026. Dreamerr Prime in-game chat is discussing MOT l-VH-331b m-MOT-37-67630, which transferred 6 million into Euu's wallet and raised taxes.

CoinCrafter23: @EUU did POPI etc really cost 6m last period!? That seems high, or is it back pay as well?
muad_dib: I would also like to know what is costing 6m and why taxes have increased.
muad_dib: Particularly given I've just upgraded popi buildings last government out of pocket.
Euu: Oh. I took it to repair the new planet.
Euu: 192a 192b

The two votes in favor are Euu and Mlion. I caught back up with him after the coup but before molp removed Tnn and yfj911.

Last time we spoke, you said you wanted to stay neutral. What is your position now?

Hey there, just wanted to let you know four things:

First, what Euu did this time was purely personal beef— no internal discussion happened before they jumped into the tax hike and fund transfers.

Second, I don't agree with what Euu did.

Third, I'm just as disgusted by the blanket sanctions against all FOXV players.

Fourth, I can tell you exactly what's coming if things keep spiraling: Euu can easily rally and execute fast enough to seize the main planets of any group they decide is hostile, slap max taxes on them, and strip every last piece of infrastructure until the planet's population hits zero. This plan's already in the prep phase.

You can pass this warning along to the community.

I'm still curious about my original question: do you consider yourself a neutral party still?

I don't agree with how Euu rolls, but I respect the way they play the game. Within the rules, some players are all about cooperation, others just wanna blow things up—that's their call to make. From that angle, I'd say my stance is still neutral.

I feel like some of the so‑called vets in this community just love telling everyone else how to play the game. Come on, it's a game—you can't expect every single player to play exactly the way you want. That's just not how it works.

Are you telling people to not embargo Euu/Liuli?

I'm not against embargoes or anything—I'm just stating a fact. An embargo against Liuli or Euu is basically pointless. For most Luli players, their whole production loop runs internally anyway; they barely interact with the wider community to begin with.

But the threat of Euu hitting back? That's real. Right now, he's holding back a bit after hearing some pushback internally, hasn't gone and one-click deleted all of 331a's infrastructure yet. But just imagine if he actually decided to go full villain mode— using the same method to grab governor control of target planets, especially ones loaded with scientist pops, then tanking the planet's happiness by ripping out infrastructure. That would cause a massive exodus of high-tier population. The kind of damage that does? A toothless embargo doesn't even come close.

Bottom line: talking it out is the only real way to fix things. Embargoes just lead to more fights.

So are you telling people not to embargo Euu/Liuli?

I'm fine with embargoing Euu—even if it's basically useless and just stirs up more drama. I get why some players are pissed off. But I'm not cool with embargoing Liuli. Like I said before, Euu did this without any internal discussion, so most Liuli players had no clue what was going on. They shouldn't get dragged into this mess for something they didn't even know about.

Where did the votes come from if not Liuli?

Simple—Euu never told anyone what he was actually gonna do once he became governor.

Euu runs a company in real life, and from what I know, a ton of those votes came from employees he rallied. Since those employees are actual human beings, it probably doesn't break any rules.

My gut feeling is—even if all the current Liuli players just up and quit, Euu could still take control of any planet's government anytime he wants.

How do you know that Liuli members weren't aware of Euu's plans?

I'm in the Liuli group chat. That day, all I saw was Euu asking people to vote for him for governor. There was zero talk about coordinating anything else.

And more important—heihei, one of the core admins for Liuli, straight-up quit the faction and left all the out-of-game chat groups after this whole thing went down. That was him showing he was pissed. So chances are, Euu didn't even bother talking to his own main people before pulling this.

What are you up to now?

Ever since that first Promitor election incident, I've been deliberately keeping my distance from factions like COSM, Liuli, Schaitr, and the rest. I've been focused on building my own personal vertical production line—99% of my economic dealings go through CX— trying my best to keep my corp fully independent. Most of my in-game stuff these days is really just managing the Chinese community group, handing out newcomer grants, and doing Pro sponsorships for newbies.

Where are these grants and Pro sponsorships coordinated? PUCCC?

PrUn中文交流群. Given some of the stuff the PUCCC admins have pulled in the past— plus one of them randomly cussed me out for no good reason (he figured I was super tight with Euu, so he's got it in for me too)— I just don't care to have anything to do with them.

Didn't Euu delete that recently?

Yes. We got an independent third party to rebuild it. But I gotta say, Euu deleting that group did a ton of damage.

Who is the owner of the group now?

BTsfui

People have said that Liuli was pushing new players towards expensive high-tier electronics/manufacturing bases on expensive planets in Hortus and taking a huge, perpetual cut. Is that a fair characterization?

Yeah, Liuli does have a plan for electronics bases, but they generally don't go out of their way to invite newbies in. With this game's new player retention rate—maybe one out of ten sticks around— dragging newcomers into the electronics supply chain just adds instability to the whole system.

As for the permanent cut, that's absolute nonsense. Liuli has opened up a kind of license leasing arrangement to new players through the bank. Newbies can pick whatever industry they're into for their base plan, and then the bank provides the funding as a loan. They negotiate with the player, where the newbie shares part of the base's profits as interest in return (and for most bases, the daily profit still sits above 80k per day even after the split). Plus, they can exit the plan anytime by just paying back the principal and keep all the profits fully to themselves.

By the way, the Liuli grants program and mine aren't the same thing. Honestly, I'm kind of lazy—I like it when newbies go for simple stuff like mining, gas, charcoal burning, that kind of thing.

I also heard you were involved in shipbuilding now. Is that true?

Yes. Some players don't like or can't access Discord, so when they need ships built, I help them source the parts. Part of it goes through CX, and part comes from my own production lines. The total price is lower than going full CX but higher than buying from an established shipyard like OOG. I do tell them upfront though that OOG is cheaper and to check there first.

Are you working with Lianrin?

Yeah, we've been working together since way back. At this point, I pretty much forward all the shipbuilding-related orders straight to him.

Are you participating in the ship sanctions/embargo against Liuli? Embargoes go against my principles—I won't embargo anyone. But honestly, I don't really feel like getting tangled up with the community right now either. I'll probably just sell ship parts directly on CX.

deepspace-

I heard PrUn中文交流群 disbanded. Is that true?

Euu accidentally clicked to dissolve the group chat. Due to official QQ feature limitations, the group chat cannot be restored. We have established a new QQ group.

Why not use PUCCC? If you ask Tegridy, Chimaki, YuLun, or RestOwner, I'm sure they can invite you.

I had an unpleasant experience with them, so I do not wish to have excessive contact.

Regarding the Liuli negotiation incident, their tone in response was deeply unsatisfactory to me. The first step toward equitable communication is to view others as equals.

Why do you think negotiation between COSM and Euu broke down?

From a personal perspective: Euu never harbored hope for the success of the negotiations to begin with. The fundamental reason lies in Euu's demand that Schaitr issue a formal apology and provide compensation for what Euu deemed targeted actions. However, Schaitr clearly has no reason to do so, including but not limited to: Euu's group's influence being too insignificant, the ship seizure incident lacking a definitive conclusion, and Euu having failed to secure public support while instead exacerbating the opposition between the public and herself.

What do you mean by ship seizure?

Euu claimed that she and her associates had previously placed orders for several vessels with Schaitr, but these were not delivered within nearly a month. During the same period, seventeen vessels ordered by other players were delivered as scheduled. In subsequent communications with Schaitr, she learned that this was due to his oversight. Euu considers this a violation of transactional fairness.

Are you a member of the Liuli executives' QQ?

Yes. I maintain certain economic cooperation with ordinary members of Liuli, which is utilized when negotiating agreements. However, I do not support Liuli's forcible occupation of Promitor and the extension of the incident to a large number of unrelated parties.

The_Xun

When we spoke 1.5 months ago, the impression I got was that MGCC was aligned with Euu/Liuli. Is that still the case today?

Not anymore. At the time, she mentioned that she and her corp will stop paying their loan as revenge, but I took that as a bad joke. And then this happened, without any notification or explanation. I'm not with her anymore.

How are the rest of MGCC feeling? What are your existing business relationships with Liuli? Does MGCC still have loans, shipping contracts, etc. with Liuli?

We disagree with Euu.

Personally, I don't have anything to do with Liuli. Some of us might have relationships still but I'm not sure.

We're not economically attached. Actually, we never had loans with them. We used to have plans together but those won't continue.

In February, you said "She [...] extends loans to MGCC"

She offered us loans, but we never reached that point. At the time we didn't want her loan because we knew that she was taking Shrewd's money at 5% to give us loan at 3%, covering 2% part herself. She's a nice person to her followers, but now I don't want anything to do with her.

What does MGCC plan to do next?

We're just chilling. I'm just chilling, I'm producing AL, BCO, LI and N to sell, and BTsfui makes some fabs. The rest? I don't know if they are still playing.

Is PrUn中文交流群 still the most active group or is PUCCC or some other one bigger now?

In my opinion, PUCCC. PrUn中文交流群 is not that active.

BTsfui

I hear you're the new owner of PrUn中文交流群!

Yes, I’ve created a new PrUn Chinese group, but its name is now "PrUn 中文 RAT 制造厂". In English, "PrUn Chinese RAT Factory".

Why create another group instead of using PUCCC?

To be honest, I just learned about the PUCCC group a few days ago.

Currently, this group is the most active Chinese community QQ group. But from what I know, it was formed after some conflicts between members of the previous Chinese community.

Given the actions of Euu in the past, some players may not want to join this Chinese community. However, I believe that despite the things he did that caused resentment in the community, we still need to acknowledge that he played a significant role in promoting the development of the Chinese community.

I don't believe Euu's actions were correct. However, I think he should be allowed to join the new Chinese community group. This is actually one of the reasons I want to create a new group——to establish a relatively neutral group. Another reason is that I want to compile and organize the existing Chinese tutorials and post them in the group, to help new players who cannot access Discord learn about the game.

Do you feel that PUCCC is not neutral?

I think there might be some lack of neutrality when it comes to dealing with the original Liuli members. However, I haven't deeply looked into that group, so I'm not entirely sure. I asked for their opinion, and they said that PUCCC is also a neutral group.

Do you know what MGCC is doing nowadays or what MGCC's plans are?

We’re not a large group, and many members are still early, so there aren’t any major group projects at the moment. Our group management is relatively loose.

We each have some construction projects. Additionally, I plan to develop YP-888 into a new AL and SI smelting system.

MioandMeow

What was your relationship with SNG?

When I first entered the game, I was granted a pro account by SNG. I have to say, this pro experience period allowed me to borrow money, which kept me in the game and I decide to buy pro to play more. BTW, I first learned about this game through a recommendation from SNG.

How'd you end up with Liuli instead of SNG?

When I started, I was in the Chinese QQ group and guided by Euu. Before I joined Euu or SNG, Euu kicked out the SNG members. Euu described SNG as a... the bad guy who exploits newcomers. And I believed it. After that, I found that I don't have any groups but Liuli to join.

Does Liuli mostly coordinate in a private QQ group?

Yes, of course. I am in the Liuli QQ group and I belive there is another QQ group for Liuli's excutives.

Many actions are made without discussion in the Liuli QQ group. For example, the Promitor's election. I am in Liuli's QQ group, but I have no idea about their strategy.

Were you asked to vote for anyone in the Promitor election?

Of course, everyone in Liuli was asked to vote. BTW, I did not vote for Euu.

I wouldn't blame you if you did! But that means you were asked to vote in the hour right before the election ends, because that's when they ran.

Euu asked us to vote at Apr 17, 17:37 Beijng Time [the election ended Apr 18 02:55 in China Standard Time]. Not the last hour. That was the only time; we weren't asked after that in Liuli's QQ group.

If you want to reconfigure your base that was being used for CCD production, I'm happy to help!

Chimaki, RestOwner, Tegridy, and COSM are helping me recycle my base that was being used for Liuli's CCD production.

Where does most of the CN community gather now? Is it still PrUn中文交流群 or is PUCCC more active or is there another?

In fact, PUCCC is more active than PrUn中文交流群. Almost no one dares to chat about things in that group.

How does PrUn 中文 RAT 制造厂 compare to PUCCC?

BTsfui says that neither PUCCC nor PrUn中文社区 are neutral so he set up a totaly neutral group, PrUn 中文 RAT 制造厂. In my opinion, PUCCC is neutral enough; no need for another group.

Jaffa

How does PrUn 中文 RAT 制造厂 compare to PUCCC?

At present, there are three communication groups in the Chinese region. One is the large group that I have re-established [Prun 游戏交流群], but many players do not want to join. The second is The RAT Factory and the third is PUCCC. It's undeniable that PUCCC is now the largest group.

YuLun

The Red Packet

Regarding the voting on Promitor in February, on Feb 13th, 2026, Mlion (USR MLION) sent a red packet (红包) in the public Chinese QQ group. The red packet is labelled "Thanks everyone for supporting Euu" (“感谢大家支持Euu”) and is followed by "Don't forgot to vote if you've got the packet" (“拿了就要投哦”). The wording Mlion used here is very ambiguous as he did not directly say the red packet is for voting, but it can be interpreted as a measure to increase vote count.

However, that date is during Chinese Spring Festival and sending red packets is a common tradition within Sinosphere and ethnically Chinese population. We typically consider from roughly half a month before [Lunar] New Year to roughly a month after [Lunar] New Year as the Spring Festival period, which is much longer than official bank holidays in any sense. So it's always possible to justify the red packet sent by Mlion as for the festival, making it very ambiguous. My (and many others') attitude towards this particular event is 可大可小 ("could be either big or small"), especially when considering the fact that Euu brought a noticeable influx of chinese players. But I started paying more attention to Euu and FOXV's operations then.

Pro gifts

The most commonly used payment methods in China, Alipay and WeChat Pay, are not yet supported on Simulogics's payment platform. Most bank cards in China also don't come with VISA or MasterCard service either, making it very difficult to purchase Pro unless a player pays via Steam.

Euu's surrogate Pro license purchasing service allows Chinese players have an easier method of payment. Separately, I run a Pro license parking/safe service, which I've cleared with molp. The way Euu's service works is Euu first buys Pro herself and gifts it to me. The player pays Euu, who informs me. Finally, I gift Pro to the player. It is open to all Chinese players rather than being a "FOXV only" service. This service is popular with good reputation. I'm not sure why Euu needed me for the service.

However, unlike my Pro license parking/safe service, Euu did not inform molp ahead of time. And as far as I know, molp is still unaware of such activity. I was also unaware of her operation until she gifted me roughly 360 days worth of Pro at once (from USR Marcus_Woods on Jan 28th, 2026). I had doubts about the legitimacy of such a service from the very start. Euu got a promotion code and she is not gifting from her USR Euu account. Therefore, I quit participating in her service in early April after clearing away her gifted Pro time.

I can confirm that Euu did not make money from her service. Even with her 20% promotion code stacked on a 12-month Pro package, which is equivalent to €5.99 per month rather than €8.00 per month, the cost of Pro per month is still €4.79. Euu only charges players ￥35, equivalent to an exchange rate of 7.31. EUR/CNY exchange rate is consistently above 7.80 in the last year. This is also part of the reason I didn't bring it up to molp.

Behavior

Privately, Euu is just a normal person with no evil thoughts such as overthrowing Promitor, or at least that's what I feel from talking to her via DM. However, I noticed her speech in QQ and point of view is heavily biased against the entire non-Chinese player base in a way some could call that hostile. I didn't like this attitude so I kept my distance. She had strong opinions against those questioning her decisions and actions towards foreign players, which resulted in members of SNG being kicked. Some of Euu's corporation plans are built upon "termination of foreign players' dominance", which is surprisingly convincing to a noticeable amount of players.

On Discord and in-game, Euu does not have much conversation with other players publicly, and is much less active than in QQ groups. To me, that is rather weird, as Euu once said herself that she attended university in London and also from previous Insitorian posts she runs business abroad. Euu shouldn't have a language barrier with English-speaking players, or if she does, such barrier would be significantly less than most Chinese players. And the fact she have noticeable amount of activity on QQ also shown she have time for social activities.

Regarding "termination of foreign players' dominance". This is a statement that's true at a glance: Chinese players doesn't have a well-known corporation in PrUn as of right now, so of course corporations formed by foreign players dominates those. But it ignores the fact that the Chinese player base is just starting to emerge. I can confidentially say I was the only well-known Chinese player in this game for 3 years until more joined starting in 2025. One way to see it is Euu is lying to garner community support without much involvement in the community.

Combining Euu's inconsistency of behaviour and her usage of false statements for community support, I consider Euu as a player who doesn't care much about long-term community maintenance. I would not criticize such activity if Euu have managed to deal with objections in a much calmer, less radical approach and without getting dangerously close to violating ToS.

Community

From April 21, 4 days after the coup, in response to Shrewdsun1 in UFO #lounge

CoinCrafter23: While I agree that there has been more hostility than peace lately, I think that is a natural result of what has happened. I've been mulling it over myself recently, and I think what horrifies me the most about what has been done is how egregiously it violates the standards and norms this community holds itself to. I will accept that there is room for cultural differences, and that those should not be used as fodder for attack. However, when you consider what this community prizes: stability, peace, friendliness and cooperation, something that flies so in the face of that is bound to be met with opposition. The community of this game is something that is remarked on constantly, to the point where the game itself barely matters; the people we've met and the friends we've made are more important than any fake currency. The act itself isn't objectively so horrific: others have rightly pointed out that this is a penny tyranny compared to some of the biggest players out there (yourself [Shrewdsun1] included). I agree, and would offer this thought for those not convinced: if this kind of thing happened in a game with 10 or 100 times the playerbase, would you be so offended? I was surprised to answer no, I would be far more blase and cynical about this, as it's only a few million after all. But it is instead the intentional disregard for and malice toward a community we hold dear that drives our anger. As such, people will continue to be angry for a while, and simply opening a dialogue, even if we got everything we want, would not be enough to soothe people.

[...] I see this episode of the galaxy's history as a sobering tale: the age of easy peace has ended. We must now fight for it. The game has grown large enough that simply saying "I am a member of COSM, I help in some projects, I do enough" is no longer enough. I hate to say it, but Liuli's only crime is realizing this before us. Actual unity, of action, of ideas, of goals, is now the requirement. Not a "I have the corp badge, I'm good" mindset. We need to stand together, not just to prevent the terrorism in-game, but to prevent the fracturing of our community.

Schaitr: I think we need to keep what Coin said above for posterity

raylu: can I take that as your endorsement of what coin said?

Schaitr: Very much so. I'll tell you frankly that the only thing still keeping me here in this game at this point is because of the community response.

I have been questioning whether all this time and heartache is worth it. It's not like I have no real life stuff to handle. If someone wants to take in all the grants and help, then turn around and bite the hands that helped, and worse in my opinion, attack the very premise that I have been working on so far - to make life easier for new players so they stay with us longer and build the economy - then I'm not sure all this effort is worth it anymore.

"It's all a game", until it isn't anymore, as how we have responded emotionally shows. This is probably just a passing fad for that person, just another game to quit after they've extracted all the fun they wanted or can have. But to many of us, it's the first thing we check on when we go home, get scolded/nagged at by our wives about, and sometimes we change staff meetings because our ships are landing and we need to send it off NOW. So it's really just a big heartache for me.